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I installed the Curt hitch a couple weeks ago and a few notes:
  • I did NOT fully cut off the trim piece per the instructions, instead just cut about a 3/8" slit the lengthwise which allowed it to straddle the vertical support bar for the hitch and allowed me to reinstall the rest of the trim piece so that there is no gap. Not sure if it makes any difference but just my preference. Took a little trial and error though.
  • The Curt hitch also hangs about 9 inches off the ground on the sides and 9.25 in the middle I'd say. I don't think they will come out with a flush mount hitch for this like I have on my Subaru or as other have mentioned was available on previous generations of the Honda.
  • While 9" is fine, where it matters is if you have a 4-bike rack that hangs 4 feet off the back of your van and you are going up or down steeper inclines (i.e. backing out of a driveway). I had mine loaded up in this situation and at the lowest point maybe had about 2 inches of ground clearance between the lowest point on the bike rack and the ground, so be careful!
  • Personally I don't see the value in the Kia hitch unless you somehow negotiate them to install for that price. The Curt was $200 total, including tax and shipping, and about 2 hours of my time to install. Neither of these includes the actual harness to hook up to the lights so that is a separate cost unfortunately.
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My 2007 Odyssey is completely concealed (other than the receiver) which looks much better, but it is only one inch higher off the ground than yours, because the Carnival without a hitch has the highest ground clearance in the minivan category.
Good to know!
I installed the Curt hitch a couple weeks ago and a few notes:
  • I did NOT fully cut off the trim piece per the instructions, instead just cut about a 3/8" slit the lengthwise which allowed it to straddle the vertical support bar for the hitch and allowed me to reinstall the rest of the trim piece so that there is no gap. Not sure if it makes any difference but just my preference. Took a little trial and error though.
  • The Curt hitch also hangs about 9 inches off the ground on the sides and 9.25 in the middle I'd say. I don't think they will come out with a flush mount hitch for this like I have on my Subaru or as other have mentioned was available on previous generations of the Honda.
  • While 9" is fine, where it matters is if you have a 4-bike rack that hangs 4 feet off the back of your van and you are going up or down steeper inclines (i.e. backing out of a driveway). I had mine loaded up in this situation and at the lowest point maybe had about 2 inches of ground clearance between the lowest point on the bike rack and the ground, so be careful!
  • Personally I don't see the value in the Kia hitch unless you somehow negotiate them to install for that price. The Curt was $200 total, including tax and shipping, and about 2 hours of my time to install. Neither of these includes the actual harness to hook up to the lights so that is a separate cost unfortunately.
Hope this helps!
I agree with the trim piece- After I cut it off I realized it not that much needed to be cut. Any pics of the hitch? Thanks!
 

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Great news! I ordered my Curt hitch a month ago and it still hasn't arrived. Perhaps I should cancel with my local store and order from your dealer. Can you tell us who you ordered it from?
Sure! I ordered from Auto Accessories Garage and it shipped the same day and had it in hand 2-3 days later...I'm in Texas and believe that's where it shipped from too so that helped. Can't complain about the price...$185+tax and free shipping.

 

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Good to know!

I agree with the trim piece- After I cut it off I realized it not that much needed to be cut. Any pics of the hitch? Thanks!
Here you go...little dirty but shows how I did the trim piece and could perhaps find a way to connect the two 'flaps'. I wish they had built considerations for the hitch into the design but it works.

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I installed the Curt hitch a couple weeks ago and a few notes:
  • I did NOT fully cut off the trim piece per the instructions, instead just cut about a 3/8" slit the lengthwise which allowed it to straddle the vertical support bar for the hitch and allowed me to reinstall the rest of the trim piece so that there is no gap. Not sure if it makes any difference but just my preference. Took a little trial and error though.
  • The Curt hitch also hangs about 9 inches off the ground on the sides and 9.25 in the middle I'd say. I don't think they will come out with a flush mount hitch for this like I have on my Subaru or as other have mentioned was available on previous generations of the Honda.
  • While 9" is fine, where it matters is if you have a 4-bike rack that hangs 4 feet off the back of your van and you are going up or down steeper inclines (i.e. backing out of a driveway). I had mine loaded up in this situation and at the lowest point maybe had about 2 inches of ground clearance between the lowest point on the bike rack and the ground, so be careful!
  • Personally I don't see the value in the Kia hitch unless you somehow negotiate them to install for that price. The Curt was $200 total, including tax and shipping, and about 2 hours of my time to install. Neither of these includes the actual harness to hook up to the lights so that is a separate cost unfortunately.
Hope this helps!
Perhaps a dual receiver would help in increasing the ground clearance. I used to have a small camper trailer and I would hitch the trailer to the lower receiver and the bike rack to the upper receiver. It worked great.
 

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Here's a pic with my Kuat bike rack and Thule cargo box on View attachment 319
Nice!
What brand are the cross bars?
Any idea what is the total height with the roof top box?
I have a similar Thule box and can make it inside my garage with my Honda Odyssey with the roof top box on it, but I am just making it. Am wondering if I will be able to do that with the Carnival?
 

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Nice!
What brand are the cross bars?
Any idea what is the total height with the roof top box?
I have a similar Thule box and can make it inside my garage with my Honda Odyssey with the roof top box on it, but I am just making it. Am wondering if I will be able to do that with the Carnival?
Cheapo amazon crossbars. It is between 78-79 inches in total height with the Thule box on.
 

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I put in my order for the SX trim, but am interested in this modification to turn the tail brake lights into the turn signal using Tail as Turn (Tail as Turn™ Module, DIY). I'm not a fan of the turn signal being down on the bumper. If anyone who has their car now is willing to try this modification and report back that would be greatly appreciated! I won't receive my SX until December/January.
 

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I put in my order for the SX trim, but am interested in this modification to turn the tail brake lights into the turn signal using Tail as Turn (Tail as Turn™ Module, DIY). I'm not a fan of the turn signal being down on the bumper. If anyone who has their car now is willing to try this modification and report back that would be greatly appreciated! I won't receive my SX until December/January.
This is really cool. I wonder how much of a pain it would be to wire since the turn signal lights are in the bumper.
 

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12,000 miles in with our Carnival and overall love it a lot so don't get the wrong impression with my list of drawbacks below. This thread is asking for drawbacks but I am very happy overall.
  • SXP only offers 7 passenger seating (since rectified with the 2023 model)
  • No head's up display even at SXP level
  • Fuel mileage - we're only averaging about 22 overall in approx. 80% highway driving. Wish it was more like 24-25 in a vehicle this new.
  • Lack of wireless Apple CarPlay
  • Lack of hands-free trunk opening (wave your foot underneath like Fords have). I know there's that proximity sensor way to open it but I turned that off right away - don't want it to accidentally open when I'm parked with the garage door down or when I back into a parking spot in the parking garage at work.
  • Horribly designed rear hitch with how low it hangs. Example: to use a camper I wanted to rent and have the tongue be level, I needed to use an 11" rise hitch receiver. 11"!!! When I back out of my driveway, my Kuat 2-bike hitch rack almost scrapes, which is ridiculous. Just a lazy design by Kia.
  • Lack of 7-wire trailer wiring like you can get on the Telluride. With 4-wire only, you are restricted basically to extremely light trailers or those with surge brakes, which is pretty uncommon. Example: I could not safely tow a 2,000 pound travel trailer.
  • Rear entertainment system: it's pretty terrible. Save that $1,000 and buy a couple iPads + mount things.
  • Digital Dash - it's pretty great overall but I wish it was more customizable.
 

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Sorento, Telluride and Seltos (pop-up).
Sorento and Seltos?! Really?! Then that sucks that we don't get it. I would gladly take an HUD over the fancy TFT dash display. I don't need a prettier speedometer, I need one that is at eye level so I don't have to constantly look away from the road just to check my speed.

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12,000 miles in with our Carnival and overall love it a lot so don't get the wrong impression with my list of drawbacks below. This thread is asking for drawbacks but I am very happy overall.
  • SXP only offers 7 passenger seating (since rectified with the 2023 model)
  • No head's up display even at SXP level
  • Fuel mileage - we're only averaging about 22 overall in approx. 80% highway driving. Wish it was more like 24-25 in a vehicle this new.
  • Lack of wireless Apple CarPlay
  • Lack of hands-free trunk opening (wave your foot underneath like Fords have). I know there's that proximity sensor way to open it but I turned that off right away - don't want it to accidentally open when I'm parked with the garage door down or when I back into a parking spot in the parking garage at work.
  • Horribly designed rear hitch with how low it hangs. Example: to use a camper I wanted to rent and have the tongue be level, I needed to use an 11" rise hitch receiver. 11"!!! When I back out of my driveway, my Kuat 2-bike hitch rack almost scrapes, which is ridiculous. Just a lazy design by Kia.
  • Lack of 7-wire trailer wiring like you can get on the Telluride. With 4-wire only, you are restricted basically to extremely light trailers or those with surge brakes, which is pretty uncommon. Example: I could not safely tow a 2,000 pound travel trailer.
  • Rear entertainment system: it's pretty terrible. Save that $1,000 and buy a couple iPads + mount things.
  • Digital Dash - it's pretty great overall but I wish it was more customizable.
Two other big ones I forgot:
  • I LOVE the Passenger View feature but there is a huge miss with it. It's for checking on kids and the smallest kids are the ones most in need of checking on. The smallest kids are in rear-facing seats and, because of where that camera is located, you cannot see them at all, just the back of their car seats, unfortunately. Chrysler's Fam Cam has the camera over the 2nd row, which solves this problem (https://www.cars.com/articles/honda-odyssey-vs-chrysler-pacifica-cabin-camera-431494/). Wish Kia would have copied that design instead of Honda's CabinWatch, which has the same issue as Kia's. I use the Passenger View to mostly see what my 4 y/o is doing and still have to rely on the rearview mirror + regular old mirror hanging from the rear seat headrest thing to check on our baby.
  • The rearview mirror should be a digital one, where it uses the rear camera in a continuous feed so you can always see fully behind you, no matter what people/cargo are in the backseats of your car. That's a feature on a lot of luxury cars now and would be great at the 50k level like SXP's are.
 
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