Carnival’s Drawbacks

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CrystalSun

Discussion Starter · Feb 28, 2021

Hi all!
I have been waiting with my vehicle upgrade for the Carnival. I love the machine and wanted to get it but below are the letdowns

What do you think?

1. Why am I forced to go with black wheels if I want one of the SX trims? It should’ve been an option (like Chrysler’s S Appearance)

2. Top trim only comes with 7 pax seating

3. Digital cluster, heated steering wheel, auto dimming rearview mirror (believe it?) are only available on top trim which automatically excludes me and all others who need an 8 passenger vehicle. (I’ll forgive the LED headlights and sunroof)

4. Even top trim doesn’t offer auto dimming side mirrors

Overall, Kia is pretty inconsistent with the features they offer for each trim level. While they include some extra gadgets in the lower EX trim (intercom, passenger view camera, etc.) they don’t offer everyday useful driving features on the SX trim

PS
Is rain sensing wipers an available option?

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UN-Limited

· #121 · 4 mo ago

kckyle said:
Two other big ones I forgot:

I LOVE the Passenger View feature but there is a huge miss with it. It's for checking on kids and the smallest kids are the ones most in need of checking on. The smallest kids are in rear-facing seats and, because of where that camera is located, you cannot see them at all, just the back of their car seats, unfortunately.

I got lucky with my rear facing car seat. I could see most of my kid's head and body (though not the entire face). I guess depending on the model, some car seats are harder for the camera to see than others.

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kckyle

· #122 · 4 mo ago

UN-Limited said:
I got lucky with my rear facing car seat. I could see most of my kid's head and body (though not the entire face). I guess depending on the model, some car seats are harder for the camera to see than others.

Yeah, I remember you saying that in another thread - wish I could see a pic. We've got probably the most common car seat though (Chicco KeyFit) and the only way I'd be able to maybe see a little of our daughter would be moving her seat all the way up, which would mean the driver's seat is way up to the point where I probably can't drive it. It's baffling why Kia/Honda place those cameras where they do and not where Chrysler does. It's like nobody on the engineering team is a parent OR talked to a parent with a rear-facing seat.

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Sasse

· #123 · 4 mo ago

kckyle said:
Yeah, I remember you saying that in another thread - wish I could see a pic. We've got probably the most common car seat though (Chicco KeyFit) and the only way I'd be able to maybe see a little of our daughter would be moving her seat all the way up, which would mean the driver's seat is way up to the point where I probably can't drive it. It's baffling why Kia/Honda place those cameras where they do and not where Chrysler does. It's like nobody on the engineering team is a parent OR talked to a parent with a rear-facing seat.

I have the same car seat and the same problem. I would have preferred a camera that can see rear-facing, instead of forward-facing.

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· #124 · 4 mo ago

kckyle said:
Yeah, I remember you saying that in another thread - wish I could see a pic. We've got probably the most common car seat though (Chicco KeyFit) and the only way I'd be able to maybe see a little of our daughter would be moving her seat all the way up, which would mean the driver's seat is way up to the point where I probably can't drive it. It's baffling why Kia/Honda place those cameras where they do and not where Chrysler does. It's like nobody on the engineering team is a parent OR talked to a parent with a rear-facing seat.

We used the Graco extend2fit and it has 3 or 4 levels of reclining. Level 2 was sufficient for my toddler to be comfy and be seen by the camera. Any more reclining would have caused the front passenger to lose leg room.

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StanfieldNC

· #125 · 26 d ago

kckyle said:
The rearview mirror should be a digital one, where it uses the rear camera in a continuous feed so you can always see fully behind you, no matter what people/cargo are in the backseats of your car. That's a feature on a lot of luxury cars now and would be great at the 50k level like SXP's are.

Our new 2023 SXP allows us to drive with the rear camera and 360 camera on full time. It's not on the mirror, but serves the same function. Are you able to do that?

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kckyle

· #126 · 26 d ago

StanfieldNC said:
Our new 2023 SXP allows us to drive with the rear camera and 360 camera on full time. It's not on the mirror, but serves the same function. Are you able to do that?

That would be kind of similar, how do you do that?

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StanfieldNC

· #127 · 26 d ago

Just turn on the reverse camera while driving. If it doesn't work, I'll make a video next time. Let me know if it works for you.

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Revol47

· #128 · 23 d ago

kckyle said:
Yeah, I remember you saying that in another thread - wish I could see a pic. We've got probably the most common car seat though (Chicco KeyFit) and the only way I'd be able to maybe see a little of our daughter would be moving her seat all the way up, which would mean the driver's seat is way up to the point where I probably can't drive it. It's baffling why Kia/Honda place those cameras where they do and not where Chrysler does. It's like nobody on the engineering team is a parent OR talked to a parent with a rear-facing seat.

shouldn't be the reason, but in Korea, car seat became required under 6 years old by law in 2018 (really...2018). and yet it is still generally okay not to use it because they don't really enforce it.

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