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I know with a new car as technology advanced as the Carnival there are bound to be questions, software bugs, etc. I was looking to start a thread on people's experiences, open questions, and remedies regarding their bugs (e.g. OTA software updates, dealer visits, other software hacks etc) along with any other Q/A.
 

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BUG:

Steps to reproduce:
1. Get into middle row of car
2. Remote start car with doors locked
3. Exit car (manually unlocking car)
4. Open trunk gate
5. Close trunk gate
6. Unlock car with remote (should be locked at this point)

Expected Results:
1. I can unlock the car with the remote

Actual Results:
1. There is no way to unlock the car with the remote. We ended up using the app to unlock the car.
 

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I was at the dealership checking out an SX-P that had just arrived. My wife and I couldn't get the Passenger Talk to work. We turned off all the bluetooth and played around in the settings, but still would not work. Any special tricks to get this to work? Possibly defective in the one we were looking at?
 

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I was at the dealership checking out an SX-P that had just arrived. My wife and I couldn't get the Passenger Talk to work. We turned off all the bluetooth and played around in the settings, but still would not work. Any special tricks to get this to work? Possibly defective in the one we were looking at?
Passenger talk works for me. Don't matter what's connected, you just press the button then talk.
 

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Anybody have any tricks on how to quickly get back to the home screen when you are in Apple Carplay mode?
 

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Anybody have any tricks on how to quickly get back to the home screen when you are in Apple Carplay mode?
I set the Star button that you can customize to "Phone Projection" for Apple CarPlay. I believe when CarPlay is enabled if I press that button it returns back to home.
 

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After putting 1500 miles on the odometer, I think I figured out most things (other than the auto hold button).

Hitting the setup or nav button pulls up the ability to hit home. It’s two steps but allows you to configure the star button for something else. I set it for apple car play on the head unit and inside camera on the steering wheel.

That button up top next to the sunroof button that shows a blinks light outside the car locks out the interior light when turned off. We thought our interior lights were broken.

All the cruise safety can be operated independently. Meaning, I can have lane centering on, keep assist off, and adaptive cruise off or any combination thereof. The button for the keep assist is the only persistent setting after engine cycling.

I particularly like the scenes mode for the digital gauge cluster. It dynamically updates based on weather and sunlevels.

The built in Nav isn’t great. In going to a Kroger it had me across the street at a condo complex in Hilton Head. Luckily, I could see the only place it could logically be and headed there.

The worst and most frustrating thing is when you are using apple CarPlay and you lose your cellular signal. It completely disconnects from the system and you have to wait until you have signal again to reconnect. This is maddening when you are trying to use Waze for Nav.

You can split screen in apple CarPlay but you have to set it up while disconnected. It’s in the device settings. That option seems to persist across all users unfortunately. Maybe I’ll try this one out again.

I especially like the walk up and open door option and that you can set it for just the sliding doors vs all doors. That will save our garage door for sure. If you just open the rear gate it does seem to auto lock. The side doors do not seem to auto lock after walking away. Or at least that’s what the app showed us. More experimenting is required

Down here in FL on I95, people drive insanely fast. 15+ over the speed limit seems to be the norm. In trying to not cause an accident going too slow, we’ve been averaging 25-26mpg. I’m certain it would be higher if the flow of traffic was slower. I thought people drove fast in the NE but this takes it to a whole another level.

Back to the lane centering and lane keep assist. Works awesome on blacktop. Concrete it struggles at times, especially if the lines are washed out. There is no audible warning when it decides to cut out so you need to be prepared. The lane centering works great but there is an algorithm on how long it will go until it starts to warn you. It can be as little as 10 seconds or as much as 30 (from what I’ve seen so far). I haven’t quite figured out the auto speed limit set yet.

Cost for a windshield replacement is about $1k and only very few Kia dealerships will do an end to end job that includes recalibrating the camera. It doesn’t seem particularly robust to rock impacts.
 

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The worst and most frustrating thing is when you are using apple CarPlay and you lose your cellular signal. It completely disconnects from the system and you have to wait until you have signal again to reconnect. This is maddening when you are trying to use Waze for Nav.
Can you please talk me through this, maybe I am missing something?

Assuming you have LTE/4G, does that drop off? How does the NAV Carplay Nav work without LTE/4G (I use google maps).

Has anyone else encountered this issue?
 

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Can you please talk me through this, maybe I am missing something?

Assuming you have LTE/4G, does that drop off? How does the NAV Carplay Nav work without LTE/4G (I use google maps).

Has anyone else encountered this issue?
Normally, apps like Waze have a bit of the map cached, so, even when the cellular signal drops, it can continue showing the existing map with your location on it for a bit of time until you need more data for the map. On the Carnival, when you lose your cellular signal, it just disconnects Apple CarPlay. To reconnect, you have to monitor your phone and then once signal is restored, you can reconnect the cable and restart the route with Waze. It also seems to crash Waze on your phone when cellular signal is lost. I have not tried this with other mapping utilities like Google Maps or Apple Maps, so it could very well be a Waze/Apple CarPlay specific bug annoyance.
 

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I was at the dealership checking out an SX-P that had just arrived. My wife and I couldn't get the Passenger Talk to work. We turned off all the bluetooth and played around in the settings, but still would not work. Any special tricks to get this to work? Possibly defective in the one we were looking at?
I have a 2022 carnival SX prestige. I think you have to turn the volume up in the settings
 

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Passenger Door closing sequence - Does anyone know if it’s possible after remote starting the vehicle, is it possible to open a sliding door or back and close it without the engine shutting off? I’ve found i can only do it if I first open the drivers door before attempting to shut the others. It’s annoying if I’m loading groceries on a hot/cold day and want to get the climate system going while I return the shopping cart. Minor problem but curious if there was a fix. Thanks.
 

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Passenger Door closing sequence - Does anyone know if it’s possible after remote starting the vehicle, is it possible to open a sliding door or back and close it without the engine shutting off? I’ve found i can only do it if I first open the drivers door before attempting to shut the others. It’s annoying if I’m loading groceries on a hot/cold day and want to get the climate system going while I return the shopping cart. Minor problem but curious if there was a fix. Thanks.
I just did this last night actually.. I remote started my prestige, and had to carry my granddaughter and when I got to the passenger side I opened the passenger side sliding door, the car did not shut off, I then got in drivers seat (without unlocking car) and I put it in drive and went on my way.. hope this answers your questions..
 

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Thanks for this information. I tested it out today. It seems the “key” is not messing with the lock/unlock after you open/close the doors and the engine stays on. I think I would close the door and the press the lock button and the engine would the shut off.
 

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Normally, apps like Waze have a bit of the map cached, so, even when the cellular signal drops, it can continue showing the existing map with your location on it for a bit of time until you need more data for the map. On the Carnival, when you lose your cellular signal, it just disconnects Apple CarPlay. To reconnect, you have to monitor your phone and then once signal is restored, you can reconnect the cable and restart the route with Waze. It also seems to crash Waze on your phone when cellular signal is lost. I have not tried this with other mapping utilities like Google Maps or Apple Maps, so it could very well be a Waze/Apple CarPlay specific bug annoyance.
I drove for many hours over the past weekend and ended up in area with no signal, this was horrible, it kept cutting out on me and disconnecting the Android Auto. Every time we went into a valley that dropped my signal the phone would disconnect and Waze would crash and we'd have to reenter our destination. After too many times we just stopped trying and then the built in NAV started having similar issues when in areas of extended outages.

To make matters worse, I think that keeping the phone in the wireless charging cubby reduces the signal to the phone, I'm getting many more drops in areas that I never noticed having issues before. I will be watching out for this more now.
 

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I drove for many hours over the past weekend and ended up in area with no signal, this was horrible, it kept cutting out on me and disconnecting the Android Auto. Every time we went into a valley that dropped my signal the phone would disconnect and Waze would crash and we'd have to reenter our destination. After too many times we just stopped trying and then the built in NAV started having similar issues when in areas of extended outages.

To make matters worse, I think that keeping the phone in the wireless charging cubby reduces the signal to the phone, I'm getting many more drops in areas that I never noticed having issues before. I will be watching out for this more now.
I download "Offline Maps" in advance using Google Maps on my iPhone when making longer trips, especially to areas with poor signal. Makes this not be an issue.

This seems like a specific phone/app issue you are experiencing unrelated to the car. I don't have these issues with my phone in the cubby.
 

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BUG:

Steps to reproduce:
1. Get into middle row of car
2. Remote start car with doors locked
3. Exit car (manually unlocking car)
4. Open trunk gate
5. Close trunk gate
6. Unlock car with remote (should be locked at this point)

Expected Results:
1. I can unlock the car with the remote

Actual Results:
1. There is no way to unlock the car with the remote. We ended up using the app to unlock the car.
For what reason would you perform this exact sequence of steps? o_O
 
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