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I saw on one of the Carnival FB groups someone posted about the sliding doors closing on a kid and not stopping automatically.

Has this happened to anyone? Is this a problem? Sounds like a big safety issue.

I thought the sliding doors have sensors like the tailgate door. We're getting close to purchasing, but this is obviously concerning with little kids.

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I saw on one of the Carnival FB groups someone posted about the sliding doors closing on a kid and not stopping automatically.

Has this happened to anyone? Is this a problem? Sounds like a big safety issue.

I thought the sliding doors have sensors like the tailgate door. We're getting close to purchasing, but this is obviously concerning with little kids.

Thanks!
The salesman demonstrated the sensor working when we test drove it... shrug Our Sienna's doors have had issues before. It's not a 100% fool-proof system.
 

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I saw on one of the Carnival FB groups someone posted about the sliding doors closing on a kid and not stopping automatically.

Has this happened to anyone? Is this a problem? Sounds like a big safety issue.

I thought the sliding doors have sensors like the tailgate door. We're getting close to purchasing, but this is obviously concerning with little kids.

Thanks!
I tried it before buying it. The pressure from the door closing on my hand made my knuckles pop and it definitely wasn't a pleasant feeling, but it ultimately didn't leave a mark and reversed direction as designed. A small child would probably cry if this happened to them.

But at least these doors won't close all the way. Do you know how many people have had their fingers slammed by normal hinged car doors? :eek:
 

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The pressure required to stop the doors is ridiculous, children are going to seriously hurt. I HATE this damn car.
This is incredibly sensationalistic.

Are you expecting the doors to reverse course at any breath of wind that blows upon them? Now if it wasn’t stopping and kids were losing limbs and such, then maybe you’d have a legitimate grievance.

Wait until you find out you also have two front doors that can be opened and closed at will and there’s nothing to stop them but errant body parts!

*Disclaimer: I had a sibling who lost the end of one of their fingers in a Chevy Astro van’s sliding door in the early 1990s. The only people responsible were the little kid who put their finger in the way of the door and the parent who was closing it. There was no outrage at any manufacturer.

Take some responsibility. If you don’t trust the system to do its thing, then turn off the power doors and control them yourself. Just know you then wouldn’t have the electronic safety net.
 
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I experienced it with my kid... He had his thumb stuck as the sensor did not detect and closed in on him... His Thumb got fractured... I have sent a inquiry to KIA CARNIVAL support team to check whether sensor needs to be enabled or it does not have sensor at all...
 

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So sorry to hear that! Hopefully everything heals and he’s okay in a few weeks. Please let us know what Kia says. I’m sure any response is going through legal review before it gets to you.
 

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I experienced it with my kid... He had his thumb stuck as the sensor did not detect and closed in on him... His Thumb got fractured... I have sent a inquiry to KIA CARNIVAL support team to check whether sensor needs to be enabled or it does not have sensor at all...
Yikes! That's terrible news. Sorry to hear about that. Hope the little one is doing ok now.

Unfortunately, this specific scenario is very difficult to prevent. A single finger on a small child doesn't create enough resistance to reverse the door's travel. If that was the case, then the door's motor wouldn't have enough force to close the door if you ever parked on an incline. As a general recommendation to all parents of any car, please please please confirm all little ones are clear of the door before closing.
 

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My 3 year old son is currently in the emergency room because his hand was crushed in the door at the knuckles by the sliding doors of my 22' Carnival EX. Do we need to activate the sensors? unbelievable. I really wish I could sue the hell out of them tbh.
 

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My 3 year old son is currently in the emergency room because his hand was crushed in the door at the knuckles by the sliding doors of my 22' Carnival EX. Do we need to activate the sensors? unbelievable. I really wish I could sue the hell out of them tbh.
So sorry to hear this! Hope your son is okay and is able to heal quickly.

This is a good PSA to not rely on those door sensors.
 

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This is incredibly sensationalistic.

Are you expecting the doors to reverse course at any breath of wind that blows upon them? Now if it wasn’t stopping and kids were losing limbs and such, then maybe you’d have a legitimate grievance.

Wait until you find out you also have two front doors that can be opened and closed at will and there’s nothing to stop them but errant body parts!

*Disclaimer: I had a sibling who lost the end of one of their fingers in a Chevy Astro van’s sliding door in the early 1990s. The only people responsible were the little kid who put their finger in the way of the door and the parent who was closing it. There was no outrage at any manufacturer.

Take some responsibility. If you don’t trust the system to do its thing, then turn off the power doors and control them yourself. Just know you then wouldn’t have the electronic safety net.
The 2 front doors don't have hand-crushing preventative measures in place as a selling feature. Nice antagonistic Manufacturer representative reply though. Your disclaimer from the early 90's is cool, but these vans are 2022.
 

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I saw on one of the Carnival FB groups someone posted about the sliding doors closing on a kid and not stopping automatically.

Has this happened to anyone? Is this a problem? Sounds like a big safety issue.

I thought the sliding doors have sensors like the tailgate door. We're getting close to purchasing, but this is obviously concerning with little kids.

Thanks!
I just got cut to the bone on my finger that I stupidly sacrificed to see how my grandchildren would fare in that situation. I believe if the button hadnt been pushed i could have lost a finger. Dumb on my part, negligent on kias.
 

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I just got cut to the bone on my finger that I stupidly sacrificed to see how my grandchildren would fare in that situation. I believe if the button hadnt been pushed i could have lost a finger. Dumb on my part, negligent on kias.
Seriously folks, this is physics, not magic. The door can only stop if it detects enough resistance to make it stop. Fingers don't have enough mass to stop 100 lb doors. If something more solid, like an adult's arm or leg gets in the way, the door will stop and reverse. But please don't put your fingers in the path of a closing door. They aren't robust enough to stop it.

I sincerely hope you're able to heal quickly though. It sucks to see anyone get hurt.
 

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@Tom H, I hope you heal quickly. I agree with @UN-Limited limited.
All minivan doors, Toyota, Honda or Kia are not safe for kids or adult fingers and will likely cause pain and/or damage. Manual and regular car doors are even less safe. We just have to make sure we keep our/our kids' fingers away from them.
We all take elevators with our kids and these doors can be more dangerous and even deadly, but we know we have to watch our young kids when we do.
I suggest to all parents not to test any minivan's sliding doors to see if one is safer than the other. We just need to watch our kids and teach them how to be careful when using them.
 

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My 3 year old son is currently in the emergency room because his hand was crushed in the door at the knuckles by the sliding doors of my 22' Carnival EX. Do we need to activate the sensors? unbelievable. I really wish I could sue the hell out of them tbh.
My 2 year old daughter just had something similar to this happen to her. We were at my son's football practice and she was in the back and she pushed the button and it shut on her arm, it did not open, I had to manually push the button for it to open off her arm. I took her to get x-rays that night and turns out it broke her arm! This happened 3 days ago. The pressure from where it closed on her arm and it not fully and completely closing should have been enough for the sensors to react and open!!
 

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So sorry to hear this. I hope your daughter heals quickly. Based on all these reports, I’ve wondered if if there is any amount of force that would cause the doors to revert. Anyone tried inserting a 2x4 or something similar in the door while it tries to close? My concern is that trying this the door would get broken because the sensors aren’t working.
 

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My 80lbs golden retriever got in the way one time and the door reverted. His whole body was in the way as I remember

So sorry to hear this. I hope your daughter heals quickly. Based on all these reports, I’ve wondered if if there is any amount of force that would cause the doors to revert. Anyone tried inserting a 2x4 or something similar in the door while it tries to close? My concern is that trying this the door would get broken because the sensors aren’t working.
 

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So sorry to hear this. I hope your daughter heals quickly. Based on all these reports, I’ve wondered if if there is any amount of force that would cause the doors to revert. Anyone tried inserting a 2x4 or something similar in the door while it tries to close? My concern is that trying this the door would get broken because the sensors aren’t working.
What a shame that the car would be damaged by its own faulty system . Wouldnt that be a tragedy
 

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I did NOT follow my own advice from earlier in this thread when we test drove this car. I used my hand to prove to my wife that the door would open if a body part got in the way. The door attempted to close, but did reverse as my hand wedged between it and the frame. However, it wasn't a pleasant feeling and popped my knuckles. It did not break skin or bones though. I have not desired to try it since.
 

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I did NOT follow my own advice from earlier in this thread when we test drove this car. I used my hand to prove to my wife that the door would open if a body part got in the way. The door attempted to close, but did reverse as my hand wedged between it and the frame. However, it wasn't a pleasant feeling and popped my knuckles. It did not break skin or bones though. I have not desired to try it since.
The lesson you learned is the advise we should all follow. Thank you for sharing!
 
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