[markscarnical]

We bought the Carnival in July - and we love it. The only thing it missed was the hotspot. So, I was excited to try it out when we got the email a couple of weeks ago. Well, lo and behold, the wifi is associated with UVO link - so no dice in Massachusetts.

So here is a more fundamental question. When I spoke with support about the whole Massachusetts right to repair issue, they weren’t actually able to tell me why UVO Link is turned off. It was just a shrug. Does anybody know if there is any forward movement in Massachusetts with UVO? Is it just Kia?

If I look on Hyundai, there don’t seem to be any restrictions with Blue Link - which I think is their equivalent offering.

Anyone?

 

[Leshemdoc]

We bought the Carnival in July - and we love it. The only thing it missed was the hotspot. So, I was excited to try it out when we got the email a couple of weeks ago. Well, lo and behold, the wifi is associated with UVO link - so no dice in Massachusetts.

So here is a more fundamental question. When I spoke with support about the whole Massachusetts right to repair issue, they weren’t actually able to tell me why UVO Link is turned off. It was just a shrug. Does anybody know if there is any forward movement in Massachusetts with UVO? Is it just Kia?

If I look on Hyundai, there don’t seem to be any restrictions with Blue Link - which I think is their equivalent offering.

Anyone?

At the heart of the 3rd iteration of the right to repair law was the access to data. The UVO app collects a lot of personal information that is stored on Kia's cloud servers. Car manufacturers who fought and spent millions to prevent the bill from passing, claim that they can't safely share the personal information with small repair shops. This is just their excuse to try to prevent small shops from fixing their car. In previous iterations of the law they claimed that sharing their repair manuals will lead to unsafe repairs. That was a bogus claim just as the data claim is this time.

The question is and this is for anyone not just for folks who bought their car in MA -
Do you know what Kia collects about you?
and do you trust your dealership and anyone who works there that you may not even know or maybe had a bad experience with, more than your neighborhood guy that worked on your car for years?
The answer is, like in any other area -
OUR PERSONAL INFORMATION SOULD BE OURS AND ONLY OURS TO DECIDE WHO TO SHARE IT WITH - just like our health information.
The law is in the courts right now and may take a while before anything is decided, but it is clear - it is not the protection of personal information but about car manufacturers trying to maintain exclusivity in repairing their own cars. In the meantime KIA disabled the app in MA so it will not collect personal information it would have to share by law.

 

[marshall.gobuty]

We bought the Carnival in July - and we love it. The only thing it missed was the hotspot. So, I was excited to try it out when we got the email a couple of weeks ago. Well, lo and behold, the wifi is associated with UVO link - so no dice in Massachusetts.

So here is a more fundamental question. When I spoke with support about the whole Massachusetts right to repair issue, they weren’t actually able to tell me why UVO Link is turned off. It was just a shrug. Does anybody know if there is any forward movement in Massachusetts with UVO? Is it just Kia?

If I look on Hyundai, there don’t seem to be any restrictions with Blue Link - which I think is their equivalent offering.

Anyone?

Has anyone found anything about the UVO in MA? thank you

 

[robertkmitchell321]

At the heart of the 3rd iteration of the right to repair law was the access to data. The UVO app collects a lot of personal information that is stored on Kia's cloud servers. Car manufacturers who fought and spent millions to prevent the bill from passing, claim that they can't safely share the personal information with small repair shops. This is just their excuse to try to prevent small shops from fixing their car. In previous iterations of the law they claimed that sharing their repair manuals will lead to unsafe repairs. That was a bogus claim just as the data claim is this time.

The question is and this is for anyone not just for folks who bought their car in MA -
Do you know what Kia collects about you?
and do you trust your dealership and anyone who works there that you may not even know or maybe had a bad experience with, more than your neighborhood guy that worked on your car for years?
The answer is, like in any other area -
OUR PERSONAL INFORMATION SOULD BE OURS AND ONLY OURS TO DECIDE WHO TO SHARE IT WITH - just like our health information.
The law is in the courts right now and may take a while before anything is decided, but it is clear - it is not the protection of personal information but about car manufacturers trying to maintain exclusivity in repairing their own cars. In the meantime KIA disabled the app in MA so it will not collect personal information it would have to share by law.

OK. Privacy is all well and good but - no remote start. Do I care if Kia knows when/where I start my car? Nope. Check out what info is on your credit/debit card.

Yes, let folks opt out by data point. Unlock ok, remote start ok, etc.